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Unlocked Phones [EDIT] Nevermind, Good Answers Provided [/EDIT]

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#11 Milena Dokim
About PvP system:
If there will be now GPS, then how will be approved PvP in real time? it will be request or it will be somekind of zone and when you come in to it you automatically in PvP ( PvP arena or PvP Challenge LIke in MMORPG - with save zone and so on)?
Or it will be status, whitch can be chosen by player and when you in, other player in same status will be able to have PvP with you or even littel part VS party?
About Party and Guild:
Maybe it is to fast, but How will work party system and guild?(if it will be). If will be a BIG monster it is abviasly that one Person will not be able to dill with him. So there where party come up. How will it works?
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#12 zatokar
(09-27-2016, 11:21 PM)Milena Dokim Wrote: About PvP system:
If there will be now GPS, then how will be approved PvP in real time? it will be request or it will be somekind of zone and when you come in to it you automatically in PvP ( PvP arena or PvP Challenge LIke in MMORPG - with save zone and so on)?
Or it will be status, whitch can be chosen by player and when you in, other player in same status will be able to have PvP with you or even littel part VS party?
About Party and Guild:
Maybe it is to fast, but How will work party system and guild?(if it will be). If will be a BIG monster it is abviasly that one Person will not be able to dill with him. So there where party come up. How will it works?

Hello Milena, welcome here.

PvP has 2 modes. One is long distance mode for which we have a matchmaking pool so everyone who is seeking for a wizards duel can jump in and he would be matched with an opponent according to some criteria. Second one is a proximity mode when players can meet on the real life location and challenge each other. The other one has to accept the duel in order to fight. Maybe we will have some locations where you don't have to accept the duel in order to fight.

Yes there is guild system in place and party system is also on the radar, but is not part of the initial game version. It's one of our stretch goals on Indiegogo. In case we raise enough money, it will be included in the first release of the game Smile.
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#13 Captain_kiwii
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Quote:Seriously, unless you WANT hacking players to ruin it all, please make it so the app will NOT run on unlocked phones. 
(There are at least three memory editors out now.... )

Thank you for your time and consideration. 

-Grimm







If your talking about rooted phone, I'm seriously sick of people talking about what they don't understand and discriminate people who have done nothing to deserve it.

Pokemon go show one thing : The stupidity of their dev with blocking rooted users like me (and blackberry users by the way) did not stop botting at all. I mean the youtuber famous botter are not even ban.

For your information all this shit do through pc utilisation, people don't do this shit on their phone...



I'm really disappointed. I was going to back the project, thinking at least I could enjoy a AR game with my rooted phone without being harrased but it seems it won't be this one (Am I Wrong?)

For info root as jailbreak are legal.
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#14 QuantumSnow
(10-13-2016, 09:16 AM)Captain_kiwii Wrote: If your talking about rooted phone, I'm seriously sick of people talking about what they don't understand and discriminate people who have done nothing to deserve it.

Pokemon go show one thing : The stupidity of their dev with blocking rooted users like me (and blackberry users by the way) did not stop botting at all. I mean the youtuber famous botter are not even ban.

For your information all this shit do through pc utilisation, people don't do this shit on their phone...



I'm really disappointed. I was going to back the project, thinking at least I could enjoy a AR game with my rooted phone without being harrased but it seems it won't be this one (Am I Wrong?)

For info root as jailbreak are legal.

As @zatokar said, they are not planning to just block rooted users, so I don't understand why you are so upset. I hope I could clarify things for you Smile.
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#15 Captain_kiwii
I was refering to the first post of someone who clearly don't know what he is talking about start by asking that players like should be block.

And yeah this kind of behavior is kind of a pain in the ass...


And when I read "Of course if we must, we would do that", I sure don't want to back a game if at the end i'm blocked for knowing of to use my phone at its full extent, even is it's considered as a last resort...

So that's kind of blocking me right now...
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#16 QuantumSnow
(10-13-2016, 09:39 AM)Captain_kiwii Wrote: I was refering to the first post of someone who clearly don't know what he is talking about start by asking that players like should be block.

And yeah this kind of behavior is kind of a pain in the ass...

Nobody is an expert about everything. I think if you're not into this, such a lock is a reasonable approach to consider. You just shouldn't realize it without learning about the technical details first, which is why @Grimm asked about it here first, right?

(10-13-2016, 09:39 AM)Captain_kiwii Wrote: [...]
And when I read "Of course if we must, we would do that", I sure don't want to back a game if at the end i'm blocked for knowing of to use my phone at its full extent, even is it's considered as a last resort...

So that's kind of blocking me right now...

If you know how to use your phone to its full extent, you also know how to circumvent this lock Wink.
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#17 Captain_kiwii
Quote:"Nobody is an expert about everything. I think if you're not into this, such a lock is a reasonable approach to consider. You just shouldn't realize it without learning about the technical details first, which is why @Grimm asked about it here first, right?"


If you're not an "expert" from what right do you decide to ask to block a part of the community? That's kind of selfish if not more in my opinion.

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Quote:"If you know how to use your phone to its full extent, you also know how to circumvent this lock Wink. "


The question is not so about being able to than having to. Why should I spend time to circumvent a lock that is unfair and unjustify? Because i'm root i should be a target?

Man, if this kind of thinking is apply in life to people, say on their skin color, it brings us back by a lot  no?

For me it's as much ignorant as saying that if your have nothing to hide, you should not care about your private life.

That's kind of short thinking.

At least, as far as i'm concerned.
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#18 QuantumSnow
(10-13-2016, 10:02 AM)Captain_kiwii Wrote: "Nobody is an expert about everything. I think if you're not into this, such a lock is a reasonable approach to consider. You just shouldn't realize it without learning about the technical details first, which is why @Grimm asked about it here first, right?"

If you're not an "expert" from what right do you decide to ask to block a part of the community? That's kind of selfish if not more in my opinion.

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Quote:"If you know how to use your phone to its full extent, you also know how to circumvent this lock Wink. "


The question is not so about being able to than having to. Why should I spend time to circumvent a lock that is unfair and unjustify? Because i'm root i should be a target?

Man, is this kind of thinking is apply in life to people, say on their skin color, it brings us back by a lot  no?

For me it's as much ignorant as saying that if your have nothing to hide, you should not care about your private life.

That's kind of short thinking.

At least, as far as i'm concerned.

You might ask for it because you don't know that you are not expert enough to assess it properly. You can only know that until someone else tells you. And as far as I understood, he has realized that such a block is not a good option. @Grimm, correct me if I'm wrong.
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#19 Helly25
Wow guys, slow down there. The conversation is going down the hill right now.

Kiwii, no one is attacking you. Zatokar never actually stated banning rooted phones WILL happen. Is it not understandable to, for the good of other players, ban cheaters, who often use rooted phones, if nothing else helps? No one is saying you cheat, but please think about it:
What use would it be to you if you could play with your rooted phone, but you are surrounded by cheaters? That is just as annoying.
Zatokar will ban rooted phones only when there is no other way to stop the cheaters. There is nothing else he can do then, except for sitting back and watching them destroy the game for EVERYONE. And the percentage of people using rooted phones isn't that high one should guess. But many people will be wanting to play it. So it's either ruining the fun for some people or for all of them. It is a hard choice and I am glad I won't need to make it!

Arguing will get us nowhere, really. Just wanted to tell my point of view.

Let's wait for Zatokar now, he can probably answer to that better than we can.
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#20 Captain_kiwii
Except again that botters are not playing on their phone... And bot are still working on pogo, even more maybe. Same for spoofing...

At the end, you screw a community and it doesn't help a bit your game.


That's kind of like forbiding the use of car because some people misuse their car. That's insane...

And what I was saying is that i'm struggling with backing because If I do, I don't want to be block for no legit reason, like a "bouc emissaire" for peoples who actually cheat.I mean do not be naiv here, if niantic blocked root and jailbreak it was more to reassure stockholder than to actualy stop botting..
The fact that people who don't know what they are talking about ask for segregation guided by fear is kind of frightening me also.

I would love Zatokar's view on that, yes.
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